“It’s much easier to give people false-facts than it is to convince them the facts are, indeed, nothing more than misinformation or outright lies.”

I would like to extend my thanks to all those who have communicated with me recently. I am sure more will do so, as bad-news seems to travel quickly – but I have a little good news as well.

Yes, I have just spent since May 19th in the hospital, as well as the last month in Re-Habilitation learning how to walk again. Being a very active person, this was extremely difficult to do, to say the least.

I went for an overnight procedure—an operational-procedure that day on the 19th, home on the 20th; well, It did not work out that way at all.

Eventually, it was found I also had Pancreatic Cancer, and the organs all around it infected in locations that required a Whipple Operation ASAP. I was Jaundiced, and yes Orange skin and Yellow-Eyes.

The Whipple Operation was completed in Portland, Oregon, along with a Life-Flight from Medford, Oregon, to Portland —– the hospitals summary in Medford apparently eludes to my death, after a collapsed Kidney, but revived and the repair of the Kidney successful —–

I had spent 13 hours in the first of four operations/procedures, while attempts to cut all of the Cancerous tissues out. The second operation was 9 hours long, and so forth. Kudos to the Doctors at the Cancer Center for keeping me alive, and for now getting rid of my Cancer – Hopefully!

Now for Reality. There is a lot of time to consider things, while in a hospital. Some truths become very obvious, whether we as Advocates want to admit this or not. Many Advocates have taken to the people who pass the misinformation and lies along to the public – Yes, there is a somewhat active situation of not Resolving the Wild Horse Problems.

And why not? Some of these non-profits are making more money on the Wild Horses, or exploiting them without resolution, all the while making more money then they ever have before in their life. We used to call them Free-Loaders, a much newer term is their obvious nature of “Exploitation for Personal Profits and Greed” . . . Scallywags or scammers are the more modern terms.

But why is this, and what can we do to Resolve the Wild Horse Issues at hand? Well first, rather than making the priority of listening and passing on-erroneous information from non-profits (who hold profit far and above the significance of the Wild Horses), we can make the Wild Horses the Priority (and force the laws which already prevail upon those responsible to do so – DEMAND THEY TAKE ACTION ON THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WHICH ALREADY EXIST, TO OBEY THE LAWS WHICH NOW GOVERN THE MANAGEMENT OF WILD HORSES), rather than, making corrupt non-profits and associating with them the Priority over all else.




Posted by on November 28, 2017 in Uncategorized


Wild Horses Misinformation and Bad Science: Corrupt Government Agency and Non-Profits

“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.” ― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt: Hitchhiking the Galaxy One Last Time

Why do we take issue at the lack of good science data with what is called today, Pesticide PZP? Because subjectivity and science remain two separate situations. The dynamics of each very different. Many of us find Pesticide PZP nothing more than subjective rhetoric – the results on our Public Lands of this endeavor remains quite negative, with no good potential results foreseen in the future. Wild Horses are going extinct! False science, misinformation, ignoring of Ecological demands, and corruption the reasons why . . .

The wild horses on America’s Public Lands is falling victim to what many of us simply refer to as bad, and incompetent white-paper gibberish. As history shows us time and again, government agencies seem to attract this type of research, calls it science, and as history shows us, time after time, until we see the outstanding negative results, in this case a species going extinct, do we finally realize the mistake.

But only over time is the burden of responsibility taken to task, the fingers point to those who cannot defend themselves, and these elements of destruction, these non-profits and BLM who promote this Pesticide PZP scam, simply move-on to other schemes and scams to obtain taxpayer money differently, is all . . .

Well, as taxpayers and American’s it is time for all of us to Stand Up and say no to any further Pesticide PZP use —

Spotted Owls in the Cascades

For explanation reasons, I am using the Spotted Owl within the Nooksack River watershed, as well as the Skagit River Valley, both in the Cascade Mountains. It shows us, overtime, the dynamic also involved within the wild horses, even though separate ecological zones, separate species for sure, yet similar in population encounter and census.

The biology, when all the variables considered, show situations that remain overlooked, or even ignored, by Pesticide PZP research. Many define, categorically, Pesticide PZP as questionable subjective reasoning of combined-information only, merely passed-off as science –

“If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” ― Albert Einstein

Many of us accept this fact of facts, as there simply exists too many variables left unexplored from the Pesticide PZP data gathering, to be any type of acceptable science what so ever. Way too many significant data situations ignored or even not thought about what so ever, which would show beyond a doubt Pesticide PZP, a questionable situation at best, and non-useful. The reasoning why significant variables left unexplored? Well, let’s take a look at some of the more obvious, and viability of our wildlife in general.

A census of the Spotted Owl may show twenty-five owls exist, but perhaps only seven are of a reproductive age, and only five sexually active. The outcome of this, within a good biology context, would likely be five-owls, not twenty-five. To assimilate across the board a 20% to 38% increase, as they do with wild horses, is simply bad management, untruthful, and no good-science or biology would back up such claims what so ever – as variables do exist on this planet, always.

When we refuse to consider significant variables, that do exist and apparent should not be ignored, then we have to question the supposed science involved. On the same scale of research, if we ignore the habitats, or Ecological Zones that exist, deduction through subjectivity only, and as if Pesticide PZP unharmful within any circumstance – but never explored, through due diligence and good data gathering, we never find out if harmful or not in Ecological Zones of any type. . . Used on something like Wild Horses, we become very concerned at this monumental error in judgement, that certainly lacks scientific responsibility, and one can also attest, irresponsible within an ethical or humane context as well . . . – John Cox, The Cascades

But taking this further, and moving on to the twenty-five Owls located at Skagit River Valley. We may locate also twenty-five individuals. Within this group, two owls may be contributing genes to future generations; the birth rate here would likely be two, as good biology and all variables considered, will show us.

Good biology, coming from truthful research, shows us this as facts, and only when all variables explored, data gathered, and the data then studied within an objective understanding of the data, which only then gives us the results to use in the research.

A hypothesis-test is completed, and through experimentation and sound mathematics, we come up with working proof, whether the situation a valid circumstance, in this case population control by use of a pesticide – or simply would be harmful, or of no use what so ever, and disruptive rather than helpful. Yes, the hypothesis can become positive or negative, and truth must be told, otherwise . . .

Without appropriate data gathering, all variables inclusive, we find throughout history good science with objective circumstance prevails – subjectivity and opinions does not, and is not good science at all.

We can now understand how far off subjectivity can lead research, and into realms not of science what so ever, but into commercialized product sales-only situations. Within the scenario above, or good science combined with good biological Laws of circumstance, the actual objective counts will always be lower than the census size, because not all individuals contribute equally to reproduction, again, as good biology shows us consistently.

Biologically, when the variables considered, we can average census counts at about four times higher than effective population. This situation ignored in total, in another word, good biology has been ignored for a more commercialized, and truthfully a far more harmful product within our Public Lands, and imposed upon America’s Wild Horses.

We also find, within good science and all variables considered, fifty-owls, at the bottom of the genetic basement, may actually translate into a census count of a few hundred birds. To maintain a census of 500 owls, for example, several thousand individuals would require protection.

View all the presumptive numbers cautiously, until variables enter into the equations; which, only then do we find more to population viability than genetic uncertainty. Demographic and environmental stochasticity must also be taken into account. In reality, and what makes any type of population control drugs or pesticides questionable, is the fact that the demographic character of any given group, in this case the wild horses on America’s Public Lands, is never certain, in real-time.

Species Extinction Variables

What we have done, in order to understand extinctions, complex and variable situations become consistent; actually, these are variables that remain overlooked by any Bureau of Land Management data gathering, as well as not meeting requirements to use population control drugs at all, and on our Public Lands. . . The best example is, we discover, Ecological Zones require wildlife diversity, not single-species-selection as a priority (i.e. cattle), which in real-time, and as history shows us consistently, will always destroy Ecological Zones, and will lead the majority of significant wildlife to extinction — and for several reasons – variability-census must be gathered as entry data into any good scientific research:

  1. Genetic uncertainty, or random changes in genetic makeup due to inbreeding (one of many other negative downsides, becoming more and more consistent weekly, to Pesticide PZP and other population control drugs and pesticides) et al., which alter the survival and reproductive capabilities of individuals;
  2. Demographic uncertainties resulting from random events in the survival and reproduction of individuals in populations;
  3. Environmental uncertainties due to unpredictable changes in climates, predators, weather, food supply, and the population of competitors, predators, et al.;
  4. Catastrophic uncertainties from such phenomena as hurricanes, fires, droughts, etal., which occur at random intervals.

A viable population is one that maintains vigor (health) and the potential for future evolutionary adaptation – The reality? Wild-Horse-Populations face increasing risk as their numbers decline, in a very reality-based future, they are heading to extinction – and yet, Pesticide PZP still in use upon them as if this situation did not exist at all. We can define ignorance here, as the uncooperative mind-sets ignore the obvious. Money is involved, make no doubt, and does make people blind to many facts.

Once again, we look at the supposed research of Pesticide PZP, and find the data obtained to be extremely narrow in scope, with significant variables unavailable, or purposely left out entirely? And, once again, we find subjective-opinions, placed into a science category, awkwardly at best, is destructive, especially to the wild horses.

We can state beyond a doubt, that those who say they support, or work with BLM are indeed corrupt as well – as one does not work within corruption and cannot avoid becoming corrupt themselves – History consistently and undeniably shows us this truth.


Until we understand the complexity of our Public Lands and forestry’s entirely, inclusive of its Ecology and entire Environment Complex, whether it be the Forest Service, the Bureau of Land Management, or non-profits who partake in contracting for taxpayer’s money, then we should simply leave it alone – as currently it is being destroyed by nothing more than ignorance! And on many different levels! We must understand Ecological Zones in order to understand more of the variables that exist within the use of Pesticide PZP within any Environment. This includes our wilderness environment as well. To even consider a single-species (non-indigenous cattle for example) management paradigm, is not only destructive to any environment, but is simply an ignorant and not well thought out situation, nor is it any type of science what so ever.

It shows us just how broken our government wildlife and wilderness area management situations are today – and the use of Pesticide PZP only acceptable within this broken wildlife management paradigm.

Then to compound such ignorance with a pesticide and other population control drugs, that inhibit wildlife growth, and under the guise of misinformation at best (there exists no over-population of wild horses on our Public Lands what so ever), then we have an incompetent government agency compounded by very ignorant non-profits who are making a lot of money, all the while destroying America’s Wild Horses.

But then, we find this type of misinformation, lies, and corruption quite often, within America’s history. We have the option, and no excuse, because we know, and must acknowledge change is needed within the Bureau of Land Management as well as the regulatory capacities of non-profits. They must now take responsibility for their partaking in the very blatant Wild Horse destruction, and road to extinction as well.

We need many changes here in America, and it is simply time to start with saving our wild horses on our Public Lands from extinction. This is all-inclusive of placing Wild Horses back onto our Public Lands, leaving them and other wildlife alone.

This paradigm, alone, will provide as well as promote extended Ecological Zones, when diversity finally takes hold, of both vegetation and wildlife. But here we must understand proximity, size of healthy Environments, and the actual connections between land mass and all Ecological Zones, which provide, eventually, a very healthy environment for the human species to live upon this planet, as well.

As no human can remain an island upon themselves, neither can our environment, and will actually thrives upon the connection of all and to all . . . John Cox, The Cascades


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Ecology Sustainability Wild Horses and Truth

A lack of knowledge, or ignoring good science, and what nature is telling us, is no longer an excuse to not do the right things. We find illiteracy in many different, at times ironic, places. The wild horse advocacy is something of a quagmire of this situation. Let’s take a look, and confront the contrary conditions of horse advocacy, and we will see many in leadership rolls, which those have taken upon themselves, in reality inadequate in knowledge, or lack the education in many instances, as well as the power of observance, to actually do the right things to resolve situations.

The existence of any definable positive developments, by either horse advocacy or BLM Management, remains “0” productivity toward any positive-resolutions what so ever – the matters have simply gotten worse, with rhetoric and lies far more abundant than previously. . . This is mostly due to ignoring good knowledge, or many being totally ignorant of honest, resolution-type knowledge from truthful and good data collection and observation, honesty in horse counts on Public Lands, or simply honesty in general. . . What does exist are pretend resolutions to situations, that indeed, those resolutions simply make the situations far worse . . . and the reason this is worth discussing.

Coffee – Sun Grown versus Shade Grown

Interesting example, and thorough discussions abound. Let’s look at something we all know, and love – Coffee. . . Ready for Reality?  I will spare you the history, market displacements and incentives, for the more direct, and discussion driven information.

Sun Grown Coffee – grown as a monoculture that uses heavy doses of pesticides and fertilizers, which turns the coffee farms into ecological deserts. As well, impacts to humans develop, as sun grown coffees often require the removal of trees from steep mountain slopes, thereby, it causes erosion, runoff of contaminated water, and landslides. Hoping for better yields, disease resistant coffee, lower costs of conversion, and cheaper prices on the commercial markets created the mutant coffee monster, and devastated soils and lands negatively. Ironically, the coffee turned out to be of a less quality, equates to lower prices . . .

Shade Grown Coffee – Now this is where it gets interesting, a “natural process” really does mean something, actually it means a lot. This methodology is a much cheaper method of producing coffee, quality coffee, and with lesser needs for fertilizer (because decaying leaf litter feeds the coffee plants), and less pesticide use – if at all (because trees attract birds that eat a diversity of bugs, to include the archenemies of coffee farmers, the coffee borer). The final bean yields a better tasting cup of coffee (healthier as well), which can mean a higher price per pound. Also, as one coffee farmer attests, “The trees give the coffee more taste, more force. . .”

Sustainability / Biodiversity and Wild Horses

Many of us who observe and understand biodiversity and sustainability, defend within a support-complex of good science, compared to Nature’s already well defined roll, within survival on this planet  We strive to aggressively create Change, for the beneficial and positive change for wild horses, supporting the natural progression of Nature’s Methodology, and establish the wild horse within its Natural Environment . . . This compared to the already attempted and lacking resolution paradigms, or Human-Management of Wild Horses, based on bad-science and often no rangelands’ management truthfulness, that ibcludes rhetoric and lies.

Within this type of Natural-Order, or progression of things, we remain concerned about the spatial complexities within healthy ecological systems. The truth is, neither cattle nor modern ranching situations provide healthy Ecological Systems – and not only America’s Wild Horses suffer, but a vast range of wildlife wiped-out; which, all the while our own human species is placed into a very threatening situation, with our future appearing very gloom, indeed. All of this is from incompetent management paradigms, or immediate-reactions stirred by political agendas (equates to special interest only paradigms of lands and wildlife management) – which both destroy land and wildlife alike.

The un-natural items, pesticides and fertilizers, we are currently using within our wilderness areas, and ecological zones, and simply do not know the overall effects of its use, neither in the wilds nor within the wildlife, undoubtedly destroy our lands – for nothing more than very low-quality products of limited usage, as well as financially-profit-base-driven situations within a system where, truthfully. . . Just as knowledge important to save our planet, Nature also must be allowed to do what it does – and this will save our planet. . . Through knowledge, we will understand this – through ignorance, our planet will be destroyed in a few decades.

Short term pretend-solutions, in use by many government agencies of today, disregard soil as one of many critical links; spatial densities certainly yet another concern for viability and natural progression of self-controlled populations of wild horses – apparently overlooked due to lack of knowledge base, or truthful science. . . or a robust form of total-ignorance in the matters of how relationships of wildlife and land-mass exist, especially in matters of sustainability and within healthy Ecological Zones.

Spatial Wildlife Livability

We can use as an example here of the “cruising-radius” of a mole, just for something to think about and place into a proportional mind-set of circumstance. A half-mile may be seventy-five times its “cruising-radius”, which represents only 1 percent of the area a solitary Cougar traverses.

Another very good example of this situation, or landscape-scale of livability for wildlife, is the Grizzly Bear and old-growth forests, and the boundaries within them; or, productive HMA’s and the non-virtues of them being over-populated by cattle, which again we discover cattle serve no purpose what so ever in our rural or natural environments – it is a myth, which remains destructive and within a drastic proportion directly effecting our planet . . .

The fact we attempt to work within the confines of corruption, we attempt to assume we have a voice of authority within a politically corrupt system, or we assume resolution and yet ignore the reality that it is unfavorable to corruption, or continue to ignore the facts that it could even be possible to achieve, any type of resolution what so ever, within a corrupt organization, is and remains merely faulty perception or mind-set, and those perceptions indoctrinated within us from childhood —

This is a situation lightly touched upon by wild horse HMA’s, but at such an elementary and non-conclusive level, and so mismanaged, that we can assume the HMA’s really remain nothing more than political footballs, tossed back and forth by political pundits and lobby groups, directed toward special interests only, and what is actually non-definable and in real-time consequences.

The fact is when terms and names of situations to replace the actual life or living-evolution of an animal (the term Feral for example, attached to wild horses and represents such an overwhelming number of them, actually means nothing at all); which, is an oxymoron none the less, and used by those who really know nothing of the situations of America’s wild horses on Public Lands. Yet, another term to cover-up what one does not know or understand at all — as it does take time and patients to do so, and knowledge to understand what one is looking at, to actually define in principle anyway, a known situation we can understand better; or grasp the real-time methodology or paradigm toward resolution.

We can measure, quite often as a matter of fact, the bullshit-paradigms that do exist today, simply by placing them into categorical anomalies, or real-time occurrence models, and find they really do nothing – yes, gravity exists, and when throwing an apple into the air, it indeed plummets back down to the ground – start speaking about feral, and the vastness of the undefined term simply nullifies itself – yet government agencies have attempted to establish definable boundaries for feral horses . . . which perpetuates the lies of wild horses not being indigenous in America — and of course, welfare ranchers acquire much more cattle pasture by using the term quite freely, and even to liquidate our wild horses — and yet???? a mere term which means nothing — and oddly, no one admits their ignorance, and need to learn more . . . Wild Horses die!

Ecological Connections – Landscape Scale

What is developed, from all the loose terminology within the political and lack of good science spectrum, is the reality of a landscape scale of appropriate use. Yes, from one reserve boundary to another, the actual dis-connect of ecological connections, so much required within a functional and healthy ecological system, as well, becomes disconnected in total. Out of ignorance? Most often, and Ecological Diversity or Sustainability remain words tossed around by many, but never really understood. The wild horses suffer from this tremendous lack of knowledge almost daily now, and their numbers becoming less weekly.

The bothersome situation here is, if I am correct and there is evidence to show I am within a well-defined situation of science and biology alike, with the hierarchy theory being correct also, then there exist emergent properties at each different level to the extinction of others, are and remain misleading.  We question the truth, once again.

Cattle only, for example and assuming it is a management priority type of paradigm, is and remains ridiculous, and certainly within a proper biological perspective; as well as any necessity at all of financing or business venture (other than to obtain taxpayer money similar to a welfare basis of falsified needs), shows us extensively!

Cattle is a specific intrusive element of non-indigenous animals, and the cost so inflated, due to corruption and on several other levels attached to it, not only wild horses suffer but all wildlife, indigenous by the way, as well as taxpayers alike.

In another word, not to consider the genetics, with viability concerns as well, of our wild horses on Public Lands, and be truthful about them, and protect them at the same time — then disregarding biology and its necessity, and simply going by their general characteristics only, and in walks the bullshit term “feral” once again — and yet, many are realizing today, that indeed one must look at the over-all diversity of an Ecological Zone, with everything included — and that insures the wild horse’s viability and continued genetics will exist — not done by any types of birth controls what so ever — which merely, by the way, perpetuates the bullshit term “feral” once again.

The inhabitants of predators as well as all other low-range, mid-range, and large wildlife must exist there as well – in accord with the viable habitat and environment. The BLM and DOI, among others, overlook these very basic biological-principles of a healthy Ecological System today, and yet call themselves Rangelands Managers?


Proper wildlife counts, to include horses on our federal and public lands, essential. Viability, and being truthful about genetics, of our wildlife as well as vegetation and soils and trees, remains just as important. Understanding this will save our Planet. Ignoring this, whether out of ignorance or for profits, will continue to destroy all around us.

We must confront the realities of what we, as American’s allow, and what our responsibility of our citizenship within this universe, indeed is and always has been – and our effect on everything around us. For so many, this apparently is difficult to understand . . . — John Cox, The Cascades 4-2017



Our Mountains and Wild Horses Speak; We need to listen (Part 1 of 4)

‘”One of the penalties of an ecological education is that one lives alone in a world of wounds. Much of the damage inflicted on land is quite invisible to laymen. An ecologist must either harden his shell and make believe that the consequences of science are none of his business, or he must be the doctor who sees the marks of death in a community that believes itself well and does not want to be told otherwise.’  — Aldo Leopold

Conservation biology protects biological diversity. In another word, whenever we have a dominant non-indigenous species (cattle in this case scenario and kill-off all other species for its safety and growth) within an Ecological system and throughout our natural environment, we are contributing to Mother Earth’s destruction overall; which, the poor health of an ecological system is not nature’s creation, but a human-kind complex of bad decisions based upon bad science, and simply bad knowledge or very narrow mind-sets. Why say this? Because nature shows us this and within many different ways.

“Diversity — not destruction of other species, for simply the growth of a single species — is required today. The first mandatory, the second is not conservation, but special interest driven and leads to wholesale extinction of several species, in order to save one.

The inevitable destruction of an Ecological System, we find, follows almost immediately when cattle chosen selectively, and all else destroyed for the cattle. We see the results of this today, on our Public Lands while we also observe, and understand why, the extinction ratios increase concerning America’s Wild Horses, as well as many other regional wildlife, due to bad decisions based upon non-conservation ideologies and bad science – and yet cloaked within a conservation-style only explanation given to the public by ignorance and special interests. . .” (i.e. John Cox, The Cascades)

The following are interactions, similar on a scale to biodiversity, nature and consequences; but keep in mind also, human-intervention does create further destruction when involved. The appeal toward conservation is to intercede wisely, from good science, in order to prevent total disaster; which, in this case Wild Horses and to prevent their extinction; thereby, another significant virtue of diversity (i.e. wildlife and vegetation, et al.) and the positive nature of a healthy ecological system to start with:

  1. Genetic Uncertainty, or random changes in genetic makeup due to inbreeding, etc., which alter the survival and reproduction capabilities of individuals;
  2. Demographic uncertainty resulting from random events in the survival and reproduction of individuals;
  3. Environmental uncertainty due to unpredictable changes in climate, weather, food supply, and the populations of competitors, predators, etc.;
  4. Catastrophic uncertainty from such phenomena as hurricanes, fires, droughts, etc., which occur in random intervals.

What we see, within a biodiversity situation and with the Wild Horses, is these four classifications do interact. A disease (an environmental uncertainty) could reduce the Wild Horse population on our Public Lands to numbers creating a short-term extinction (6 months to 1 year). The culmination of mares’ availability, for example, results within an unbalanced sex ratio (demographic uncertainty) could contribute to inbreeding (genetic uncertainty), and this could lead to few viable offspring and, eventually, extinction. But the forms of Pesticide PZP as well as other over-population (a falsehood due to the selection of a single-species = cattle) extremes, without concern or understanding toward biodiversity, or ignorant displacement combined with greed, can and is causing this exact situation currently.

Although these four stochastic processes are difficult to model, and thereby through incompetence of Bureau of Land Management employees to understand the difference. We find that the over-population modeling paradigms as significant (easily manipulated software programs), and the reality of extinction, based upon this same ideology to be quite extreme within the realms of reality – or to put it bluntly, what exists is a total ignorance toward any type of ecological system sustainability or diversity within it, what so ever.

The burden of saving our natural environment is upon us right now. Certainly, just as we protect our home, the planet upon which we live now needs our attention as well. The problem remains, we simply do not act toward resolving the issues, and as nature places them blatantly in front of us. We would rather make excuses, in order to not act upon them.

Aldo Leopold’s famous phrase that we are as “plain members and citizens” of Earth, we need to grasp these realities’; we need to understand that biology of life on this plant of ours is very real indeed; thereby, Leopold’s Think Like a Mountain – and take it a step further, and place those thoughts into action.

The situation becomes worse when the magnitude of “uncertainties” grow, or certainly have an effect on population dynamics as they increase, cause and effect, the effect being actual populations of the Wild Horses becomes smaller.

A viable population is one that maintains a vigor (health) and the potential for evolutionary adaptation. Populations face increasing risk as their numbers decline. This is why honesty is of a priority, in order to make good decisions. When numbers, or modeling criteria is manipulated, this entire situation compromised. We can also, in truth state clearly, when ignorance is at the helm, then everything is gone; Ecological Destruction is inevitable, and Extinction of Wild Horses a certainty.

True Conservation

Previously, ecologists used an “Island Principle” of approach toward conservation. For clarification, we can use the term Public Lands in eastern Oregon, for example, as a viable Island Principle, in order to understand the situation better, and within a conservation style or mind-set.

The fact is Public Lands in Oregon have been severed from its “continental source pool” of ancient forests, grasslands, by logging and ranching roads, cattle grazing, and human population growth. Since the early 1900’s, data shows us the lands in Eastern Oregon has indeed lost 42% of its resident mammals.

Is this evidence of a catastrophic “relaxation rate” that will further reduce the species, in this case scenario Wild Horses, over time? Absolutely, because the cattle-only mind-set is taking a priority over any type of conservation principle or ideology. Diversity, in wildlife and vegetation, is lost in total, thereby the Ecological System set for failure.

Those that call themselves Conservationists, such as hunters or trappers (but they are not really, because they prescribe to no Conservation style of modeling, principle’s, or ideology what so ever), also want such things as a good population of Elk, Deer, or other game-species as a priority-only circumstance.

Yes, to state ignorance is blind becomes an understatement here, and the Oregon Fish and Wildlife, and their business as usual concept of selling game license, is fundamental toward a true ecological systematic disaster, nothing more than a destruction process (defined by all four processes above) of our natural wilderness areas in Oregon.

The reality to all of this? The ability to foresee where ecological health reaches a point, where these so to speak islands or ecological zones, can become their own continental source pool, which equates to Conservation at its best.

Conservation and Wild Horses

With the wild horses, we all have asked what is the minimum viable population? Many of us have also debated the fact that, is not the use of pesticides within ecological zones, as well as other population controls used on wild horses, and being dispersed within our environment, really useful? In reality, there exists no reasonable answer given yet, which leads us to the fact that we have no idea, really, how many horses are running around our Public Lands, nor what effect does the chemicals from the population control drugs have on our ecology (it remains a variable that is ignored within all scientific research of, for example, pesticide PZP – this lack of variables represents bad science). . . Are we, in realty, shooting ourselves in the foot?

Once again ignorance, special interests, and political agendas enter the landscape of sustainability of our natural wilderness areas and habitats. Thereby, we have to move away from the Island Biogeography theory, to answer two very serious questions – How long can Wild Horses exist on our Public Lands, or how low can we go within any other wildlife situation, and still have healthy ecological zones? And — How big is big enough?

Yes, we are concerned with the diversity of species lost, in particular the 52% of all wildlife on an international basis, lost to extinction since 1972. That wildlife does not exist any longer. This is a tremendous statistic of fact to acknowledge, all by itself, and to understand its reality, and why it, indeed, it happened at all. This makes the questions we have, certainly, far more serious than simply the average management questions.

Those of us in the field ask, more often than not and noting the fragmentation taking place of our natural landscapes — What size, shape, and type of connections will maintain viable populations in a system of protected areas? HMA’s for example, and the Bureau of Land Management, disregard the Laws and Congressional Policies always – which, in truth bring about more questions of incompetency and corruption of those BLM employees?

None the less, viable populations and reserve size represent two paths toward the same goal, protecting biodiversity. The overall truth is, at some point a minimum viable population needs a certain amount of habitat to survive. So here we are, coming to the main question. What will it take to protect the diversity of wildlife, in this case the Wild Horses, on our Public Lands?



john-babe-sfxWhoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”  Friedrich Nietzsche

Many of us have discovered, over time, a lot of exploitation as well as false and misinformation given to the public, by non-profits – especially within the wildlife and wild horse worlds. Corruption is at its utmost peak right now, and wildlife, and in particular America’s Icon’s – the Wild Horses, sacrificed under this spellbound corrupt world of profits only AND TO HELL WITH ALL ANIMALS.

Misinformation and deception is way out of control right now. Debates and controversy exist, which no one can resolve, because there is nothing to resolve when misinformation and outright lies exist. How could there be resolution to such tales of corruptness, other than more corrupt meandering, all the while sacrificing everything but profits?

Below we are Publically asking, and many say that it is about time to do so, that those who support through advocacy or sales (actually advocacy of the Pesticide PZP and sales or profits are one and the same) the use of Pesticide PZP upon America’s Wild Horses, need to start publishing to the public well referenced and truthful information of it actually saving, or making a safe situation, or is safe what so ever to America’s Wild Horses.

Yes, we are asking, and I repeat, is the Pesticide PZP of benefit what so ever to Wild Horses?  Rhetoric is no longer acceptable — we need to review truthful and verifiable references, historical (long-term) outcomes that can be verified, and checked for accuracy, as well as definitive results, provable and checkable, of all Pesticide PZP use over the past 4 years.

Yes, we are asking for nothing more than accountability and responsibility from those who are getting rich off of the Wild Horses and darting them with a Pesticide known as PZP. Make no doubt we will also check the refences as well as the data for truthfulness and accuracy, as their truthfulness has come into question quite often over the past couple or three years.



There exists no positive-resolution for the use of Pesticide PZP — ROUNDUPS HAVE INCREASED — VIABILITY OF HERDS/BANDS, IF NOT LOST ALREADY — 60% of the 139 herds left on Public Lands are non-viable any longer due to stallions disappearing and combined with use of Pesticide PZP, ON THE VERGE OF BEING LOST FROM and due to sending stallions to slaughter and / or gelded — i.e. another 38% near losing their herd/band viability as we speak, leaving a mere 2% that have any viability what so ever — Pesticide PZP use damaging to Mares with no resolution from its use.


GATE-CROSSING STATISTICS, AND GATEKEEPER’S ATTEST, MANY MORE WILD HORSES COMING ACROSS THE BORDERS THAN EVER BEFORE! Categories’ no longer useful in identifying wild horses, as many filed as livestock as well

We also find that there exist less than 20,000 wild horses on Public lands, and roundups if you check the statistics, have increased over the past two years and since Pesticide PZP being used full time — there are other statistics as well, but common sense also tells us that the Pesticide PZP usage should stop. FACTS = TRUTH

The fact is there are too many conflicts of interest with BLM and welfare ranchers, HSUS and DIRECT connections as well as family ties to welfare ranchers, and the forestry; whereas, we find these circumstances lead to those involved making a lot of money from several sources, all the while sacrificing the wild horses.

It is time some of these non-profits, the BLM, the FORESTRY, who state Pesticide PZP useful, start proving it, as it has been going on for approximately 3 years, and quite frankly we see negative results and wild horses going to extinction must faster:

(A LESS THAN <9,000 ESTIMATE IS MORE TRUE IN THE MATTERS OF WILD HORSES ON Public Lands, as no one committed to accomplishing actual horse counts on Public Lands had found any more than the approximate 9,000+ Ground Counts –

Proof would be a well referenced, well statistically based format of facts and figures (and shown how the facts and figures and data retrieved and assimilated), which can be checked for authenticity and accuracy and truth, given to the public by HSUS (Humane Society of the United States) WHE (Wild Horse Education) RTF (Return to Freedom) and AWHPC, who state Pesticide PZP saves wild horses, but we are not seeing that situation what so ever in the field.





Posted by on February 21, 2017 in Uncategorized


Wild Horses: The Truth – Facts, The Percentages, The Corruption Unchecked

john along the williamson sunsetThe time will come when diligent research over long periods will bring to light things which now lie hidden. A single lifetime, even though entirely devoted to the sky, would not be enough for the investigation of so vast a subject… And so this knowledge will be unfolded only through long successive ages. There will come a time when our descendants will be amazed that we did not know things that are so plain to them… Many discoveries are reserved for ages still to come, when memory of us will have been effaced.”
― Seneca

In this period of American history we find many contradictory situations. Frankly, the Wild Horses of our Public Lands, merely used as pawns, in the game to riches and government budget building, increased payrolls, and outlandish equipment purchases, maintenance of the same equipment, as well as price of fuel. . . in both the Forestry (USFS), and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM).

The American Taxpayer, or Donator to non-profits, continue to be taken for the ride on the tails of misinformation, lies, pursuit for the mighty dollar as their god, and simultaneously disenfranchise honesty, or truth, for this mediocre dishonest false-premise of saving our Wild Horses. Amazing that many people even go for the scam what so ever – but you can fool some of the people some of the time . . .

Currently the ruling classes (the 1% wealthy) simply protect themselves. Monetary profits have never been higher, 40%+ now within the standard corporate premise of business, above and beyond anything else throughout the historical Industrial-Age in the matters of Capital Gains or profit margins.

No doubt politics taken over by business, actually socialism is the term and defines the situation quite well. Representative-Democracy, in reality, no longer exists. But on a positive note, the youth of today is not accepting neither the Industrial-Styled Democracy of socialism, nor the sacrifices it presents in order to maintain such a system. Change is inevitable, but slow in coming, unfortunate for the Wild Horses today – as many led by large groups that have acquired a mentality to support deception, lies, misinformation, as well as just blatantly bad propaganda . . . but people will be human, will they not?

Even though we consider ourselves a Humane Nation, in truth the term merely a convenience, rather than a truth. We provide ourselves with an ethical mind-set, in name only. Conclusively, we seem to follow the unethical and those who lack scruples, most often due to empathy or an odd willingness to be led, rather than think individually, or with common sense as a premise. . .


Somehow, beyond reason, this has become popular; which, along with hate or animosity directed at, well, whoever the group or mob manipulators point to. These manipulators are the 15% of criminals who function within our society, unhindered by law mostly, and have become corporate executives, politicians, government agency Administrators and budget personnel, wildlife administrators’, as well as sit upon boards or committees who perform oversight, mostly derived of legislators also, or the leaders-Administrators of many non-profits as well as others who subordinate much of the Humane-Nature perspective toward ethics that we use to have years ago. . .

A Little History for the Romantic

  • In the 1800’s when grass was knee high in all the western states, over 2 million wild horses roamed the West along with 60 million bison.
  • By 1900, the bison were nearly exterminated and the wild horse population drastically reduced.
  • From 1950 on, a campaign to save the last remaining wild horses and burros was begun by a Nevada rancher’s wife – Velma [Bonn] Johnston known as “Wild Horse Annie.”
  • As a result of a massive letter writing campaign in 1971, PL 92-195 “The Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act” was passed unanimously and protected wild horses and burros from slaughter, harassment, and capture on public lands.
  • The Act acknowledged, “Wild horses and burros were fast disappearing from the American scene.” In 1974, the first wild horse and burros census counted 60,000 animals.
  • Today, the numbers have been cut in half – 32,000 animals and declining rapidly – in spite of the law clearly stating that wild horses and burros ranges (HMAs) should be “. . . devoted principally but not necessarily exclusively to their welfare”

Wild Horses and a 1971 Law Ignored Today

So off we go down the road of misappropriation of taxpayer money, or one can say also, those who contribute to non-profits also, only to discover later their support ignored, and their money simply increased the non-profit’s administrator’s lifestyle – especially large non-profit, no different in the case of Wild Horses actually, then contributing and supporting the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). But wait a minute, these non-profits, as their rhetoric state clearly, is to protect America’s Icon’s the Wild Horses from the BLM, not support BLM falsehoods or negligence, or abuse . . . but they do – sadly.

Oddly, we do not find the amount of representation, from many large non-profits, that come close to not only their promises toward resolution beneficial (in this case scenario) to America’s Wild Horses on our Public Lands, but find a mere 1% to 3% of donation-money, spent toward these same assumed potential resolutions. We also found, and even more troubling, they never bothered to even show up at 68% of the situations they collected money to resolve, and yet lied about being there and taking part – or very distastefully, took the credit for another’s endeavors in saving our wildlife or horses, on occasions. Yes, very disgusting people, undoubtedly.

Isn’t it odd, we live in a country made up of Laws, but many people, those who their god is money, do not, apparently, have to abide by these Laws – Interesting to say the least . . . so they say . . dart-abcess2.

Isn’t it odd, no doubt as well, many of these people assume they are what their job classification is or is not, and within or part of the size of their large group – and the power-base for these ignorant people, these mind-sets of simplicity, the vulgar, the inept, and the good little Nazi’s, or the good little (fill-in whatever large group you wish here) and off we go down the road of manipulation, of a tenacity of crude behavior, and ignoring-Law in place of whatever the need that does develop – that they assume their group better than, and subjectively re-do the Law in accord with their corrupt behavior – I suppose they assume we do not notice this fact of all facts.

Photo is a Pesticide PZP Darted Horse, Abscessed — very common Darting- Result BLM, HSUS, or their supporters care to admit!  Also, they do not want the public to know the Pesticide PZP often does not work, nor does it control population — but the extravagant situation of removing stallions (shipped directly to slaughter from the roundups — or cutting them) and use the numbers of less birth within a false premise and nothing more than misinformation . . . one of many maneuvers of the BLM / HSUS monopoly of Pesticide PZP and their misinformation campaigns.


  • Since 1971 wild horses and burros have been removed from 102 ranges (Herd Areas) representing a loss of approximately 13 million acres of land. (There were 303 Herd Areas – now only 139 Herd Management Areas [HMAs] remain, but weekly may change, becoming much lower, indeed;
  • Wild horses and burros now reside on 34,549,570 acres of the 261,950,378 BLM acres..
  • Today, the wild horses have the greatest genetic diversity [little to no inbreeding] compared to any particular breed of domestic horse in our country (Dr. E. Gus Cothran – University of Kentucky);
  • Fiscal year 2005, BLM reduced populations by 9,300+ wild horses & burros, bringing numbers far below the levels suggested for maintaining healthy populations by the University of Kentucky – (E. Gus Cothran- Equine Geneticist );
  • Although nearly 70% of the HMAs have less than 100 animals, the absolute minimum number of wild horses and burros in each HMA should be 150 animals to prevent loss of the genetic diversity (Dr. E. Gus Cothran-University of Kentucky). This figure is based on optimal conditions and does not take into account Acts of God such as drought, deep snow, fire, etc.
  • With the above minimum number – the absolute minimum number of animals should be no less than 30,150 horses and burros under optimum conditions. BLM plans to reduce animals to 23,000, or when accomplished, to send to extinction via Pesticide PZP;
  • In the 2005 Federal Omnibus Appropriation Bill, Senator Conrad Burns (R-MT) attached a rider that gave BLM authority to sell – without limitation [slaughter]- wild horses over the age of ten [the prime of life of horses]. 8,300 wild horses fit this criterion. The rider also specified that any animal not adopted in three adoptions attempts would also be sold without limitations – 100 animals fit this criterion;
  • The 8,300 wild horses now earmarked under the Burn’s rider for slaughter were never given an opportunity to be adopted but were sent immediately to long-term holding pasture sanctuaries, not holding corrals;
  • The cost of holding the 8,300 wild horses in the long-term holding sanctuaries for 2004 was $6,800,236.00 in BLM’s overall budget of $839,848,000.00 – (Wild Horse and Burro program represents only 4.6% of their entire budget- $39,062,000.) Opposition states that the majority of BLM’s wild horse budget was used for the long-term holding, which is inaccurate;
  • Because of the lack of a quality-marketing program, BLM has been ineffective in promoting adoptions, especially of older animals. Although BLM has adopted out more than 200,000 animals since 1976. This success is due to more than 65% of adopters returning to adopt more animals. (The product sells itself.);42
  • The majority of Herd Areas contain more livestock than wild horses and burros.
  • Wild horses and burros receive 458,508 AUMs while livestock receive 7,101,592 AUMs (2002) [An AUM is the amount of forage required to feed a cow and calf per month or 1 horse or 5 sheep.]
  • Due to droughts in some parts of the West, BLM has conducted unnecessary emergency removals of wild horses instead of implementing CFR 4710.5 “closure to livestock.”
  • CFR 4710.5 was designed to protect wild horses and burros during anticipated droughts and other Acts of God by closing the HMAs to livestock grazing. This CFR is rarely implemented. In the few cases it was implemented, wild horses and burros were permanently removed while livestock returned a few months later.
  • Cattle on public lands represent only 2.6% of the beef eaten in the U.S. The rest of the beef comes from private ranchers who pay $20 to $50/AUM to lease private land.
  • The cost to graze cattle on public lands is $1.79/AUM. All of this goes into a Slush-Fund, within the forestry and BLM book keeping process of this money, which in turn is returned to the BLM/ Forest Service “Range Betterment Program.” These monies go back to the rancher for range improvements. The Public Lands Grazing program costs taxpayers one-half billion dollars yearly.
  • Based on the annual economic income growth from 1990-1997, the loss of all federal grazing in 1997 would have caused income growth in eleven western states (ten of which wild horses and burros are located) to pause for eight days. This means that direct income and job losses could be made up in a matter of a few days by the normal expansion of the economy. (University of Montana – Missoula). . .


Strangely, many horse advocacy groups, corrupt in nature and following the Pesticide PZP band-wagon of lies, misinformation, and bad childish propaganda, have become nothing more than large and extravagant hate groups. Donated money is nothing more than used for extravagant life-styles of the administrator of these groups, or new trucks, new homes, but the truth is very little goes toward saving wild horses. In the past 15 years, with these current groups at the helm, we see not much has changed what so ever.

We have also seen the situation of the Pesticide PZP come full circle for use, using misinformation and lies only. The 7-year process it took to register the Pesticide as a Pest-Control product for population control, was dead-in-the-water before HSUS become involved – then suddenly (i.e. payoffs?) the pesticide was registered – and registered as a pesticide (as Mr. Hebert explains, it is a pesticide and proper labeling required as such – and the register-administrator of the pesticide at the EPA) due to the destruction that takes place in the wild horse, or deer, or whatever, to control the pest population – see registration documentation for further study, if you dare.

Confusion is the BLM, their supporters, and HSUS’s game plans; although, it will be a short ride, when people actually realize how destructive and costly, both in sacrifice of America’s Wild Horses as well as money.

Until it is understood the wild horse’s world is corrupt, in total, BLM, Forestry, and non-profits alike, nothing will change, and the Wild Horses will go extinct!  NOW YOU KNOW — YOU NO LONGER HAVE AN EXCUSE TO ACCEPT MISINFORMATION OR LIES ANY LONGER! —


Posted by on February 19, 2017 in Uncategorized


Pesticide PZP – Reality or simply a government/non-profit tragedy? Wild Horses at The Brink of Extinction – Bad Science Bad Management

“These corporations run our culture, and they riddle it with bullshit.”
― Ben Goldacre, Bad Science

Blog – article:  John Cox, The Cascades

Pesticide PZP, the Humane Society’s Inhumane Promotion (they own the pesticide) of a much-disputed Population Control event (although no over-population of wild horses exists on Public Lands – undisputed fact of facts) and pesticide used via Dart into Wild Horses!

Rather than spend this time reading about the debates, let’s take a look at the research, and also another reason to drop the façade of Pesticide PZP saving Wild Horses (it does not plain and simple). Yes, yet another government expense that in reality is nothing more than an excuse to place America’s Wild Horses in compromise in population-survival, and take them to extinction much faster that normal.

Sensationalized and Abstracted Perception

Headlines and articles (i.e. in particular the titles), when the Humane Society, or others, are publishing articles or facts about the Pesticide PZP, we discover blatant simplicity of misinformation. They over-simplify the research, as well as the findings. Obtaining the data is also over-simplified, explained within a context of trivial occurrence, and when thought about really means nothing at all, as well as when researched the actual data is simply unavailable, or what is available, a very small portion to be precise and not a good sampling amount. is then explained in abstract-form and non-definable in definition, thereby, no one can really understand it – and those who do not understand what they read, simply assume everything is okay with the Pesticide PZP. Yes, they thrive on people being uneducated, as well as lack knowledge within reading technical reports or science.

Misinterpreted Result

Sales type of explanation, especially when government contract concerned, apparently, the norm for many research people submitting their Snake-Oil type of product for presentation to government budget committees – and the Pesticide PZP was and remains no different. Distorted and misinterpreted research data prevalent, facts skewed to abnormalities — and truth, well, in truth it was thrown out decades ago and in total, within all of the information on Pesticide PZP – But sounding official, and a few scientific terms thrown in, and they have a sellable commodity – at taxpayers’ expense, so why not, the BLM nor the Dept. of the Interior care; the employees at the BLM could care less, because they are corrupt as well. Birds of a Feather so to speak – Boy, that statement just covered a lot of ground in the Pesticide PZP controversy.

Conflict of Interest

“. . . The pay offs and the rip offs, And the things nobody saw, No matter . . .“ Pesticide PZP, it’s the allure of easy money, the cover-ups, the corruption, and again the money, and somebody has to pay the price, Our Wild Horses – Defenseless from the greed, the corrupt . . .

Scientific research can, and this Pesticide PZP no different, is and remains misrepresented for personal and financial gain. Even though we know, these government employees should analyze the situation with the previous in mind, they do not. As the situation, or pay-off, to keep quiet, or mislead the public, all involved, is first and foremost the priority. To say anything, or deviate from the plan, is too lose money, to lose the contract, to lose the grant, to lose the temporary employment status – yes, everyone has a pay-off price, some more and some less.

Correlation & Causation

Be aware of the confusion between correlation and causation. Correlation between two variables does not automatically mean one causes the other. The fact deer, a minute percentage of a very small portion of them, or sample size, does not correlate to a larger percentage, or introduction, to the Pesticide PZP of entire herds of horses, in the hundred. When research done on the Pesticide PZP references, we found very few, a minute percentage, of samples taken from wildlife – deer for example. And conclusively, a very slight percentage sampled, darted, then correlated with a larger percentage of speculative circumstances. By the way, these circumstances never come to light, and the Pesticide PZP falters in many different ways. . .

Speculative Language

Speculative language from research is just that, speculative. Be on the lookout for such terms as may, which, could, might, perhaps, probable, definable, and others. This means the research has no hard evidence, and conclusion based not on fact, but speculative subjective judgement only. Reference materials also become obvious, and other references made toward obscure, or even asinine science, or good science but remains unrelated (other than suggestion that it is) as if it pertains to the main subject or situation – when perused it becomes obvious it has no link to any hard evidence what so ever to the subject material, in this case Pesticide PZP. A tremendous amount of references in Pesticide PZP reports refers to situations not affiliated, nor have anything to do with Pesticide PZP, within its manufacture process or use, or genetical change created.

Sample Size Too Small cartoon-accommodations

A book could be written here, on the Sample Size being tremendously too small for any proper research of Pesticide PZP. This should have been explored by the budget committees within the BLM or DOI, but was not. We found very few Sample-Lots, and even fewer Herds of deer, or horse herds on an island along the East Coast, that could even come close to any type of positive research standards of acceptable product, in this case the Pesticide PZP. Ultimately, we found the Sample Sizes mentioned too small for any type of conjecture of the short-term or long-term use of Pesticide PZP.

We found a lot of conjecture, although, with a tremendous amount of speculative reasoning, and with situations for intended use, or sub-standard reasoning to use at all on horses or any other wildlife. Environmental damage, or correlation and causation circumstance within the environment, was not accomplished, nor even mentioned or thought about (defies proper and quality research, and the very reasoning for the research) what so ever, and we see waived in the EPA paperwork – we also feel that such a long time to register and conclude such circumstances, whether safe or not in wilderness or any other environments, was not done, nor even approached within any research format.

We find that Pesticide PZP danger to surrounding wildlife or vegetation did exist, but was hoped to be ignored. We are also suspicious that it may have been researched, but proven negative within the small sample size obviously completed, and yet removed – due to unsafe standards as well as when larger percentages of the Pesticide PZP perhaps used, the dangers become more prominent than the wanted result of population control.

Unrepresentative Samples

In wildlife trials, researchers will attempt to use animals that may be representative of a larger population, of say ungulates. The fact is, when the breed or species of animal different, despite being ungulates, the outcome will be varied, and even much different most often. Suspiciously, the deer results and the wild horse results are different, but left unrecorded. This also means the results from the horses on the east coast, would indeed, scientifically, be much different due to separate types of environment. But we do not see any difference in their research, as it has been, and remains unrecorded in all of the Pesticide PZP research. This remains very suspicious as well as incompetent, in accord with several researchers . . . as some state clearly, the suspicions of incompetent research, when we simply read over much of the technical papers, remain suspicious, and compounded over the long run tremendously.

No Control Group Used

The truth is we found the supposed Control Groups very small, creating subjective reasoning rather than deductive science data and research. We also found the control groups not observed for an appropriate length of time. We also found the speculative approach to data in error most often, and the sterilization and other negative effects ignored in total. The fact is, when we look at the information about the control groups, we see, as usual, a lack of information, a lack of effect on the horses and lack of information pertinent to environmental consequences entirely. All control groups have been approached within speculative reasoning only, as there is no science, or data to back up their information – and never has been over the years, despite its use – as a matter of fact just the opposite continues to develop, and problems continue to arise with the use of Pesticide PZP, but remains ignored – or excuses given to the public, and most often followed by misinformation . . . proven as such but many ignore as well.

No Blind Testing Usedpublic lands and cattle

Grouping deer herds (whether deer or horses) together, rather than intermixing, and using the Pesticide PZP on a mixed herd, and even maintaining confidentiality on testing herds – develops a non-biased situation. A non-biased blood testing regime can also take place, when actual data gathering within a research paradigm takes place – resulting in non-biased and non-manipulated blood testing. We cannot depend on the BLM nor the Pesticide PZP advocates to be non-biased, or HSUS for that matter $$$$, as corruption is proven time and time again and misinformation continues to be dispersed to the public, and at taxpayer expense — interesting.

Cherry Picked Results

This results when a researcher selects only the data that supports their subjective conclusion, ignoring or tossing out data that does not support the subjective conclusion. Or, we can say, and see quite obvious at times, that objective perusal of the Pesticide PZP research data not accomplished what so ever. We can see this by the data left out, that should be within the research data, but gone entirely. The best example, is the data or circumstance of environmental effects on the different ecological systems where darting took place – and recorded, but ecological zones left out. Why?

The information not available what so ever, left out or tossed out in many circumstances (we simply do not know because it is not there and should be) within any research, has bothered more than a few Research Scientists who have perused the reference materials (incompetence or bias by the Pesticide PZP researchers?) – and find nothing more than subjective reasoning, with no reference supporting any of the data conclusions given. This is clearly seen with perusal of the technical reports, what does exist anyway. And the discussions center only around the bias, or cherry picked situations, and not the overall – because the overall data is unavailable, and black-holes of information, or unavailable information, quite obvious.

Unreplicable Results

This is a very understandable category. The fact is independent researchers should be able to use the Pesticide PZP, and have consistent results, or conclusive results of a positive nature. This is not happening with Pesticide PZP use on Public Lands . . .

We find, in most cases, consistency does not happen what so ever, and see very obvious within the herds: band disruption, or mare sterile, or other mares presenting more birth situations than normal, or younger mares giving more birth inconsistently and many times throughout the abnormal cycles of birth and presentation, among many other negative situations, most inconsistent at best. . .

The bottom line here is, Replication of Results, if objective rather than subjective data used, should remain consistent – if subjective data used, and erroneously accepted, then inconsistent behaviors exist, as we see quite obvious in today’s Public Lands and the Pesticide PZP used upon the Wild Horses — and reaction – interaction from the horse herds themselves. . .

Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence – This does not exist with Pesticide PZP situations nor references what so ever.

Journals and Citations

There should be a diversity of qualified people who affirm the data and reasoning for deductions given within the research. This should not be simply the acceptance by those involved within the situation, and actually represents a bias nature only, in particular from those who have invested time, effort, or money within the Pesticide PZP situation – this equates only to bias reasoning.

We see bias-reasoning to be quite prevalent within the comments made about the research and the data gathering of Pesticide PZP; although, we also see the lack of information, which many of the bias people do not mention.


Overall, and due to all of the above comments and categorical faults, we can state very clearly that Pesticide PZP was developed by Bad Science. We also recommend that Pesticide PZP is not be used further within the boundaries of the United States, as there is no evidence showing whether it has been, or will be harmful within any of our complex environments or unique ecological systems.

For taxpayers to pay for this situation, remains ridiculous, and Bad Science should never be paid for by the tax paying American public – The budget people at BLM or other government agencies should be held responsible for the non-academic assessments, but approval should be based upon good science, with no questions toward consistency or usage — with good references and data be made available to do so, and examined by those qualified to do so — We can also state, clearly, there is no need for the Pesticide PZP to be used anyway, as there is no Over-Population of America’s Wild Horses or to use any type of Population Control stimulus what so ever.

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Posted by on January 30, 2017 in Uncategorized