Not knowing what one does not know — harmful to Wild Horses!

Disinformation is a very powerful tool. Our government has been using it for 20 – 25 years now, and in the matters of our Public Lands. If one actually looks, with an educated and open-mind-set, we find government manages our lands and wildlife, within a corporate mind-set, or industry takes priority mind-set; thereby, the Disinformation. The Wild Horses, in this case scenario, lose totally.

I was in a discussion the other day, and there have been several like this (I defer here to just how powerful Disinformation is and ongoing right now). A person with a loving heart, and good intentions, told me about a fellow that has seen corrals around his area, with very healthy wild horses in them; Thereby, his conclusion was that advocates were full of crap, most often, and those horses were getting fat in those corrals, where BLM-Forestry pay to those ranchers a $-Buck a day to be there. So, in his mind, how indeed, could advocates be “right” about what they say?

This is interesting, because those particular corrals he is mentioning, are in Reality, Holding-Pens for Wild Horses, and yes for the BLM (yes the corruption continues, despite their stating it does not, imagine that) . . . But – those corrals, as we know as fact, are holding pens for Kill-Buyers, to eventually pick up those wild horses in them, and take them to Mexico, for Slaughter. These are what we refer to as Remote Holding Pens/Corrals, and we see when perusing our overall aerial photos, they are used-regularly and often full, then empties every few weeks, then full again – and no one the wiser – and done right under advocates’ noses – and non-profit people/advocates take part in it also.

In the article, Wild Horses To Slaughter, years ago, there was an interview, between a BLM Police Officer (which those involved In this investigation fired when they completed it) and a Kill Buyer. He was quite clear, that no Wild Horses were stolen from Public Lands, “unless” a BLM employee was there to over-see the situation, entirely – then off to temporary holding-pens (being discussed here) went the stolen Wild Horses . . .

Unfortunately, at the advent of pro-slaughter people’s invasion of honest horse advocates, we find now it is not only wayward and corrupted BLM government employees, but corrupted advocates as well, are there seeing it, and say nothing. $$$$.

So, we have a problem with people not knowing what they do not know, or consciously attempt to ignore the bad things, and move on to attempt resolution via – well, resolution cannot happen in this type of scenario, what so ever. Wild Horses Die! UNTIL EXTINCT!

You can, specifically, keep supporting the non-profits and BLM, and nothing will become resolved. Or, you can wisely not-support corrupted non-profits, nor the BLM, and we “can-do”, as American’s, truthfully resolve these issues.

As long as advocates remain complacent about these very serious and truthful situations, nothing good will happen to the Wild Horses’ = Absolutely Nothing. They will continue to be darted with a dangerous Pesticide, GONACON, and the Roundups will continue; whereby, to the Absolute Death and Extinction of Wild Horses, becomes a reality over all-else.

Advocates support corruption, whether knowing or not, corruption just becomes worse, and once again, Wild Horses Die until Extinct!(photo: myself with domestics in a pasture in the mountains. Wild Horses should never be behind fences, nor entrapped within them) . . .


Wild Horses – Cougars – Conflicts with Truthful Evolution

Evolution is such an under-estimated value, and within our systematic processes of today, blatantly ignored, more often than not, due to politics or just ignorance based upon bias or profits; which, our extinction inevitable, as the environment is distinctly too complex for our bias-opinionated wildlife management ideologies and actions — John Cox, Cascade Mountains

Article written by – John Cox

All wildlife run across hazards within wilderness areas.  Predation in the wilderness is common, survivability, and those who awake ready to either obtain prey or are the prey, then best be ready for action either way.  But, this is all limited, as evolutionary process conclusive, and survival skills are developed in all wildlife, and terrestrial vegetation as well, to survive beyond all else.

Similar to human’s in heavily populated cities, and even in small towns, as we see or hear about traffic accidents, auto-train accidents, train wrecks, airplane and airline accidents, car accidents, multi-pileups on local freeways, accidental and purposeful shootings, crimes where people are killed, and on it goes, survivability for human’s, as well, remains precarious in total – same things although different environment.  Survival skills required.  Things happen.  We try to mitigate the accidents or causation consciously, similar to the way wildlife, both predator and prey, assimilate their day. 

We do not need to add to their hazards, as we do very ignorantly, to make things more difficult, for example — the PZP-GONACON darting situation accomplishes nothing, and takes away the Survival Mind-Set of Skills Wild Horses do have, and require, on our Public Lands to survive.  The current loss of wild horse band-families, over the past decade, and we see the very ignorant, all-inclusive of other situations as well, that indeed does affect them directly. . . Their survivability complex we used to see, through observation and tracking of spore definitively, no longer exists in many wild horses.  Within the family wild horse bands, as corrupt government agencies as well as corrupted non-profits make the situation far worse than ignorance and bias has shown – all inclusive, we see it and it is quite evident. 

When we speak of extremely ignorant and bias wildlife management today, it is primarily because We See the Effects of it Directly – on the flats, the range, the mountains, the deserts, essentially, all of the Public Lands in the Western 11 States.  Because humans might understand the superficial proximity of a belief toward wildlife management, does not make it a reality, but typically, it becomes adverse toward any healthy ecology, inclusive of wildlife as well.  Yet, people will quote the oddly adversity a paradigm exhibits toward wildlife or wilderness areas, as if it should be a decision made about using it – Here, I say no, more knowledge needed, obviously, and the management paradigms require cohesiveness and provide evolution, i.e. room for positive growth standards, rather than dissension within any Eco-system.

Weather, especially, can be lethal within wilderness areas; or, one of the most common situations toward injury or death of wildlife, other than humans. Droughts are lethal, but manageable by the wild horses and within their survival skills, as we see quite often when observing them (we observe 82 Bands across the 11 western states – and see no one out there of any value doing the same) that is, as long as they are left alone, and pesticides are not darted into them – among other incompetent ignorance and  behaviors toward management ideologies . . .

It is only human’s that do not understand these skill sets in wild horses, that assume wild horses may die from droughts and dehydration — but what we have seen, while observing them, is the fact wild horses can, and do, locate water quite well, and within many different environments, e.g. range-lands, mountains, desert flats, valley basins, et al.  PZP and other experimental situations take-away this capacity of outright survival skills wild horses do have – and I think this bares repeating, as it is a very serious problem, and was created as well as further promoted, as something useful (only in the ignorant human mind does that develops – reality shows us it has no value at all) – IT IS NOT AT ALL!

These survival “skills” from Pleistocene-era days.  Many of us agree in total, the wild horses never lost – what so ever, and shows us there was entirely NO Interruption in Evolutionary growth, all inclusive of the America’s as well. . . and we see it on our Public Lands and within Our Wild Horses —

We see very well, humans did not complete a total kill-off of the wild horses, as we have been led to believe.  There is nothing of note in either pre-historical times, nor historical and recorded history times, to show a kill-off occurred, legitimately.  The opinions that exist are not, nor ever have been, of any science what so ever = conjecture only, which is proven, constantly, in error.  There is no evidence from these opinions that supports a kill-off; rather, it has always been surmised, mostly due to logistics or a sight-unseen belief that the wild horses killed-off among many other large predator’s and grazing animals alike – as the Pygmy Mammoth was assumed such, as well, and currently they are being found, within many archeological sites, to be plentiful within the Western portion of the United States. 

After all, no one has seen them, as the opinions go and without evidence at all.  The Pygmy Mammoth found quite by accident, on the Channel Islands in California (the beginning of many more extravagant finds within the 11 Western United States = Evidence of Grazers not only survived, but abundant in the America’s after the supposed and only opinionated Plasticine Kill Off.  This inclusive of horses as well –

Can Wildlife survive human bias and ignorance?

What we do find is the wilderness areas where the horses roam, to be almost non-habitable by human’s or industry for that matter; or, human’s simply so sparse, and communication skills within early human’s so limited, that communication from pre-historic times almost zero.  We see it is almost zero today, as well as we see confrontation between country people and city people today, as a good example of situations that lack understanding or communication.  This withdrawal from both circumstances, and we see incompetent and mismanaged wildlife, while in the field, consistently and constantly.

So, what is the point of this conversation?  The fact that Wild Horses know how to survive, whether predators around or not – or, whether humans around or not.  We can be definitive here, and state clearly, nether written history nor communication between humans existed, post Plasticine Era . . . Today, many people surprised when we start to discuss pre-European Invasion history, in the America’s . . . so there is no surprise at all that any written dialogue would tell us about wild horses or their existence at all – other than cave drawings, et al, or tribal oral historians.

Wild Horses and Mountain Lions?

North American wild horses, yes, in the America’s and throughout the Pleistocene Era, evolved in the presence of abundant, large, and fierce carnivores, including the extreme Sabre-tooth Tiger, cheetahs, and short-faced bears, which all, as the archeological files and data collected show us, helped to keep the many huge, hungry herbivores (mammoths, mastodons, giant ground sloths) in check.  Not so much the smaller herbivores, or grazers like the Pygmy Mammoth, or the Horses, as they were smaller, and much faster.  The Kill-Off from the Plasticine did not develop for the mid-range mammals at all, nor the mid-range predators, as many more archeological digs show us.  It was primarily the slower movers or larger targets that were killed-off, and the Ice-Age was not as significant as many thought, either, as data from many digs show us as well – and how the mid-range mammals’ spread throughout the all-inclusive, America’s.

North America’s surviving apex predators are large-bodied carnivores who occupy the highest trophic level. When abundant enough to be ecologically effective, these keystone species help to regulate prey populations and thus maintain native habitats and the diversity of other native species. Conversely, scientists have discovered that the loss of apex mammalian predators can precipitate ecological chain reactions that lead to profound habitat degradation and species loss.

Mountain lions or Cougars, pumas, and panthers, are very important Apex Predators and widely distributed throughout the American West—although their range, like that of the other native large carnivores, was greatly reduced by population growth and the realty – suburbs extending into wildlife habitats.  Cougars do not commonly prey on free-ranging horses and burros in North America, primarily because they are heavily hunted themselves. There is evidence Cougar population can potentially limit wild horses through the predation of foals.  What we find in the field (and no we do not see these people tat talk a lot about the Cougar, and on and on, in the field at all) is the facts or Reality, once again, and the predation of foals causation is the incompetent management of current wildlife paradigms, and birth controls used in wilderness areas, that are actually irrelevant and cause more harm than good.  Government agencies assigned to Predation Control in wilderness areas, in combination with the very bias and ignorant PZP use, for example, leaves little to no “critters” for the Apex Predators – inclusive of Cougar, Bear, Coyotes, Wolves, et al., that we seem to forget it is their Living Habitat.

In the Montgomery Pass Wild Horse Territory on the California/Nevada border, there has been essentially no lion hunting for the past 30 years. This region serves as a unique refuge for both wild horses and cougars. As such, it appears that the Territory’s un-hunted lion population hovers around what we might arguably call an ecologically effective level and significantly contributes to the control of the wild horse population.

Studies have shown that ecologically effective populations of apex predators limit population irruptions of both native and introduced species and can provide better outcomes than lethal management (here we see again within science, with the ignorance and bias movement of PZP or experimentation of wild horses on our Public Lands is okay – when it is unethical, disruptive within all of Nature’s natural Moderation of Population science, and violates the WH&B ACT of 1971 precisely); Therefore, the preservation or recovery of large predators—which, like wild horses, require extensive refugia, or protected-areas where experimentation or any human attributes, remain unacceptable as a management resolution or manipulation. . .  This presents a significant conservation need for maintaining the resiliency of wild-land ecosystems, especially in the face of a rapidly changing climate. According to a 2015 paper published by Adrian Wallach and colleagues in Oikos:

“. . . The recovery of apex predators offers an alternative response to introduced species that can simultaneously reduce the harm they cause, reduce the harm society feels compelled to cause them, and capitalize on their values. This approach is not without its challenges: society remains apprehensive towards both large predators and non-native organisms and both are subjected to eradication efforts. Never the less, considering rapid environmental change, some species will need to move to survive, and resident ecosystems will need large predators in order to adapt.  Overall, to achieve better outcomes for the biodiversity we will have to transition our efforts away from killing introduced species and towards promoting ecological mechanisms that enable coexistence.”

As we have seen, many of us, within the Montgomery Pass Wild Horse Territory, wild horses eventually learned to avoid the high, rugged terrain optimal for Cougar predation, preferring the open lowlands where cougars were less effective.  Once again, we see the evolutionary adaptation of the wild horses (their survival skills PZP-GONACON, and other experimentation will definitively take-away from them, which obviously equates to total-ignorance at its worst!), the horses figured out how to evade mountain lions.  As scientists noted, the clever horses will now “require more active management to assure habitat well-being.”

By active management, they mean continued horse round-ups and contraceptive measures. I would argue that there is another, albeit contentious, option necessary for the resolution of wild horse management.  Even though, an in-your-face evolutionary process is taking place, those who are inept, for profits mostly, want active-management control there – Yes, one cannot make this type of ignorance and bias up, and certainly misuse of our taxpayer money – and an abundant ignorance toward how wildlife and their ability to adapt, takes place.  So we are confronted with an evolutionary process, yet our government states clearly, the wild horses did not evolve at all in the America’s – and yet here we are looking at the very evolutionary process unfold, and out government denies it – yet another argument “FOR” BLM-DOI-Forestry interference toward wildlife be discontinued – they are not managing our lands for wildlife, but primarily for themselves and industry!

We then move on toward a more diverse paradigm, necessary to establish Re-Growth of our Public Lands that have already been decimated by ignorance and bias. . . Mountain lions in the Great Basin would not be able to limit wild horse populations to a sustainable level on their own.  Some researchers suggest that reestablishing a more complete suite of native carnivores through the reintroduction of gray wolves, in concert with supporting a naturally evolving mountain lion population, would provide the basis for an ecologically and economically sound, long-term solution.  This approach would not only help stabilize wild horse populations, but would also greatly contribute to restoring native grasslands, woodlands, and forests. 

But not just moderation of population develops, but alongside; whereas, circumstances of Survival Skills increase . . . as we have seen develop in other areas (yet government ignores these evolution’s we are seeing on the range and in the mountains’ quite ignorantly) and within a notable diversity increase, at least for the past decade, where government agency interruptions are the least – yes – our Natural Resources, when left along, as well as wildlife, adapt quite nicely to Trophical Cascade paradigms’, as well as generating healthier ecology habitats – We see it, very well I might add, and when government interference the least.


Frankly I appeal toward a management-paradigm of a Hands-Off Wildlife as well as Our Nation’s Natural Resources’, while it develops and prosper, and through Diversity of wildlife and territorial vegetation.  Clearly, it is a situation of many have their opinions, often totally ignorant and bias formed, but none the less for the uninitiated and those that sit behind the desk and do their research there, is a similar problem.

We have too may examples of situations where ignorance and bias prevail, in our wildlife and terrestrial habitats still today, yet ignored.  And within a parallel situation, we also have may situations that were left alone, and a Natural Moderation of Populations not only evolved, but Species integration evolved (a complex of survivability evolved, that we cannot neglect, as we are involved In this chain of events also — our existence on this planet — Evolution Mandatory otherwise existence ceases to become active in the environment) into Moderation of Populations as well as much healthier habitats and formed growth, or expansion, within the same healthy evolutionary expansion – terrestrial – oceanic – wildlife evolution complex chain.  The Trophical Cascade Effect works – we see it, whether manipulated or not – it works, and works well. . .


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